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  So Santorum wants to give people with kids even more gimmedats? 3x the child tax credit.
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Asok said:A non-refundable credit is not a gimmedat. It is your own money in the first place.



No. You owe a certain amount based on your income. Any credits are a give back, exactly like a welfare check , except you keep your dignity by rationalizing it like you do.
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tax credits are gimmiedats now? isn't that based off income tax?
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. said:
Asok said:A non-refundable credit is not a gimmedat. It is your own money in the first place.



No. You owe a certain amount based on your income. Any credits are a give back, exactly like a welfare check , except you keep your dignity by rationalizing it like you do.



i see someone else was confused by this.
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Asok said:A non-refundable credit is not a gimmedat. It is your own money in the first place.



No. You owe a certain amount based on your income. Any credits are a give back, exactly like a welfare check , except you keep your dignity by rationalizing it like you do.



i see someone else was confused by this.



Keep rationalizing welfare bumb.
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I see Rick Santorum isn't chasing the F2 basement boy vote. :lol:
sandman
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Asok said:A non-refundable credit is not a gimmedat. It is your own money in the first place.



Except for the fact that if you make below a certain amount it becomes a once a year welfare handout. You can get back far more than you put in. A single mom making $25k a year with two kids could easily get back 4-5k because the deductions don't stop at '0'.
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. said:People with kids should pay more.


:motorcycle:

When it comes to taxes, having kids should cost more because they're a common tax burden.
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sandman said:
Asok said:A non-refundable credit is not a gimmedat. It is your own money in the first place.



Except for the fact that if you make below a certain amount it becomes a once a year welfare handout. You can get back far more than you put in. A single mom making $25k a year with two kids could easily get back 4-5k because the deductions don't stop at '0'.



All credits and write offs are welfare. Let's say we have 2 people making $125K. #1 has a house and gets a nice $10K write off. #2 rents and gets diddly. According to Asuck it is their money, but one gets to pay less taxes than the other.
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sandman said:Except for the fact that if you make below a certain amount it becomes a once a year welfare handout. You can get back far more than you put in. A single mom making $25k a year with two kids could easily get back 4-5k because the deductions don't stop at '0'.

What part of non-refundable do you not understand?
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50% of American households already pay no income tax, or even get money back from the government, for having kids.

CNN and Fox say so:

http://money.cnn.com/2009/09/30/pf/taxes/who_pays_taxes/index.htm

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/04/07/nearly-half-households-pay-federal-income-tax/
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/04/16/elizabeth-factor-mallory-factor-federal-income-tax-tax-day-americans-democrats/

So does that bastion of liberal propaganda, high taxation and high spending, the NY Slimes.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/14/business/economy/14leonhardt.html

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. said:50% of American households already pay no income tax, or even get money back from the government, for having kids.

CNN and Fox say so:

http://money.cnn.com/2009/09/30/pf/taxes/who_pays_taxes/index.htm

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/04/07/nearly-half-households-pay-federal-income-tax/
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/04/16/elizabeth-factor-mallory-factor-federal-income-tax-tax-day-americans-democrats/

So does that bastion of liberal propaganda, high taxation and high spending, the NY Slimes.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/14/business/economy/14leonhardt.html



:aww: Poor babies. I'll trade places with Bill Gates if that'll make him feel better.
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Asok said:What part of non-refundable do you not understand?



You don't know what you are talking about, Asok. First you say that it is nonrefundable. In the same sentence you deny that it is a gimmedat and say that it is "your own money in the first place".

No, for some people, it isn't.

If you are a single mom making $25k, for example, you will not owe any taxes. Understand? Yet, you'll still get a refund, even though you don't (read carefully) owe any taxes.

Thus it is like a reverse welfare payment, entirely "refundable".
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. said: :aww: Poor babies. I'll trade places with Bill Gates if that'll make him feel better.



you'd lose all his money in a year.
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. said:I see Rick Santorum isn't chasing the F2 basement boy vote. :lol:



No, and he's not chasing the fiscal conservative vote either. I'm sick and tired of responsible people doing the right thing being made to pay for deadbeats, whether they be minorities, immigrants, or redneck fundie retards.

IF YOU CAN'T AFFORD THEN DO WITHOUT
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. said:No, and he's not chasing the fiscal conservative vote either. I'm sick and tired of responsible people doing the right thing being made to pay for deadbeats, whether they be minorities, immigrants, or redneck fundie retards.

IF YOU CAN'T AFFORD THEN DO WITHOUT



"fiscal" conservatives are minorities in GOP, the party of big war, big bailouts, big family. Why don't you retard that you belong to the party of borrowing more and spending even more.
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. said:All credits and write offs are welfare. Let's say we have 2 people making $125K. #1 has a house and gets a nice $10K write off. #2 rents and gets diddly. According to Asuck it is their money, but one gets to pay less taxes than the other.



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. said:why don't we stop gimmedatas to all breeders with more than 2 fruits?



Oh, you want to take on the Catholic church? Good luck w/ that.
JUSTIN_SANE
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SANTORUM HAS 6 KIDS. HE'S LOOKING OUT FOR HIS OWN INTERESTS.

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