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  How long can mentally ill people with childhood trauma go through adulthood untreated before its considered too late?
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and they should be considered untreatable.

My guess is once your past 30 that's pretty well it. your brain is hard wired, good or bad.

I could be wrong though. Of course I'm talking non-pharmacological solutions here like cognitive restructuring, etc. The drugs certainly work if you are basically looking to lobotomize yourself.
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I'll take Things Trevs Obsess About In The Middle Of The Night for $100, Alex.
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. said:I'll take Things Trevs Obsess About In The Middle Of The Night for $100, Alex.
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pontificate would be more apropos.

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Are you talking about mental defect caused by childhood trauma? If so, it is never too late. An inpatient or intensive cognitive outpatient program (usually 3-5 hours a day, every day, for 90 days) can help get you on track. Many adult survivors of childhood abuse suffer from PTSD, and do well with short-term pharma, but the real work is done in therapy. A good therapist is a godsend. Mine saved me, well past 30. Good luck, my friend.
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. said:Are you talking about mental defect caused by childhood trauma? If so, it is never too late. An inpatient or intensive cognitive outpatient program (usually 3-5 hours a day, every day, for 90 days) can....../quote]

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. said:and they should be considered untreatable.

My guess is once your past 30 that's pretty well it. your brain is hard wired, good or bad.

I could be wrong though. Of course I'm talking non-pharmacological solutions here like cognitive restructuring, etc. The drugs certainly work if you are basically looking to lobotomize yourself.



What basically happens is that your childhood starts bumping up against reality, and you crash hard.

usually 30 is around the time when toxic relationships, spusal child abuse, drug/alcohol problems, legal troubles, job troubles, etc take their toll and people begin therapy - sometimes voluntarily, sometimes not.
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What happens when you know what happened, you recognise the effects, they may be unacceptable to the rest of society, but you can live with them?

Let's say you had an experience at a very young age that left you with some kind of sexual proclivity - for example a fascination with voyerism. You know why - it was an abusive situation that caused it, you know it might cause you to act illegally, but you enjoy it.

What should that person do? Leave it there, or get help?
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. said:I'll take Things Trevs Obsess About In The Middle Of The Night for $100, Alex.
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Mascara
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. said:Are you talking about mental defect caused by childhood trauma? If so, it is never too late. An inpatient or intensive cognitive outpatient program (usually 3-5 hours a day, every day, for 90 days) can help get you on track. Many adult survivors of childhood abuse suffer from PTSD, and do well with short-term pharma, but the real work is done in therapy. A good therapist is a godsend. Mine saved me, well past 30. Good luck, my friend.



DBT works well for PTSD if it is accompanied by DID, Borderline Personality D/O...there are inpatient programs which are also valuable, particularly at onset.

Menninger, Loma Linda, Shepard-Pratt and McLean all have good programs for this.

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. said:What happens when you know what happened, you recognise the effects, they may be unacceptable to the rest of society, but you can live with them?

Let's say you had an experience at a very young age that left you with some kind of sexual proclivity - for example a fascination with voyerism. You know why - it was an abusive situation that caused it, you know it might cause you to act illegally, but you enjoy it.

What should that person do? Leave it there, or get help?



a "healthy" person will find an acceptable outlet to act out the fantasy - pron, a willing pertner, etc.

a dysfunctional person will take it to the extreme, reenacting their childhood trauma, until he crosses enough boundaries that intervention is required.
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. said:a "healthy" person will find an acceptable outlet to act out the fantasy - pron, a willing pertner, etc.

a dysfunctional person will take it to the extreme, reenacting their childhood trauma, until he crosses enough boundaries that intervention is required.



So what if it's something that can't fit the "healthy" category, like rape or pedophilia?

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. said:So what if it's something that can't fit the "healthy" category, like rape or pedophilia?



healthy people have "forbidden" fantasies; they have empathy, a moral compass and the self control to either not act on them or to channel them into appropriate outlets (like fantasy porn).

Abused people can lack self control, empathy, or self esteem - they have much less concern for the consequences of their actions, which are often motivated by deep seated childhood anger.

In other words, a "healthy" guy might see a hot girl, go home and jerk off to a "rape" fantasy which usually involves her liking it.

a very dysfunctional person might actually stalk, harrass, and/or assault her, with little concern for her safety, feelings or rights - because that's how they were treated as children.

getting in touch with their feelings in therapy is usually the first step towrds ficxing the problem
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I think the person must first recongize the trama, that it WAS NOT normal. Only then can the person be helped. It is never to late to lead a quaility life with healthy relationships.
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. said:So what if it's something that can't fit the "healthy" category, like rape or pedophilia?



You do realize that there are several people on this board who are mandated reporters?
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This is actually a good advice thread for tards like Basementboi, who can't seem to get any traction in life.
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. said:This is actually a good advice thread for tards like Basementboi, who can't seem to get any traction in life.



However he KNOWS EVERYTHING. he is beyond help.
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Never too late. People become lazy and unwilling as they age though but it is technically possible to change completely at any given time.
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If I could institutionalize myself, I would. Looks like it will take a non-trivial incidence of my schizotypal disorder to get the gears in motion.
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. said:This is actually a good advice thread for tards like Basementboi, who can't seem to get any traction in life.



However he KNOWS EVERYTHING. he is beyond help.



Wrong. He thinks he KNOWS EVERYTHING.

It's like when he was boasting to his doctor that he reads Kant. It's just shallow posturing.

He KNOWS NOTHING.
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Well.. how old is Coran?
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. said:If I could institutionalize myself, I would. Looks like it will take a non-trivial incidence of my schizotypal disorder to get the gears in motion.



If there were a mental hospital where you could refuse medications and have a private room with Internet access, I would commit myself in an instant.
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. said:If there were a mental hospital where you could refuse medications and have a private room with Internet access, I would commit myself in an instant.



Hotel? Retreat?
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Pushpinder Hauser said:
. said:If there were a mental hospital where you could refuse medications and have a private room with Internet access, I would commit myself in an instant.



Hotel? Retreat?



Too expensive. I want society to realize that I'm dangerous if left unsupervised, and that the best thing to do is to feed me three decent institutional meals daily for which I would leave my Internet-connected room.
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Mascara said:DBT works well for PTSD if it is accompanied by DID, Borderline Personality D/O...there are inpatient programs which are also valuable, particularly at onset.

Menninger, Loma Linda, Shepard-Pratt and McLean all have good programs for this.

Pretending to be a Psychiatrist again?

More like a psych patient.

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