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  Can someone explain the economy to me?
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Are we bubbling again? How the fuck can the stock market be booming, housing booming, and all this if we are in a recession? Something doesn't seem right, it seems that all this money being spent by the Fed and the low interest rates are just starting the problem all over again.

Can this go on forever?
threadkilla
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. said:Are we bubbling again? How the fuck can the stock market be booming, housing booming, and all this if we are in a recession? Something doesn't seem right, it seems that all this money being spent by the Fed and the low interest rates are just starting the problem all over again.

Can this go on forever?



the economy in one sentence: lie, cheat and steal.
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threadkilla said:the economy in one sentence: lie, cheat and steal.



but, people are calling this the beginning of the recovery, but I haven't even seen a slowdown yet.
threadkilla
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threadkilla said:the economy in one sentence: lie, cheat and steal.



but, people are calling this the beginning of the recovery, but I haven't even seen a slowdown yet.



i've not seen a slowdown either but then again my industry has been in the dumps for almost a decade so......


but most people i talk with have lost their jobs, got their hours cut or wage reductions.......
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Housing isn't booming. Foreclosures are at record levels and about 1/3 of mortgages are underwater. The market reflects the money the Fed has been printing.
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threadkilla said:i've not seen a slowdown either but then again my industry has been in the dumps for almost a decade so......


but most people i talk with have lost their jobs, got their hours cut or wage reductions.......



can you explain the resurgence of the housing boom? how long are these interest rates going to stay low? I really hope that china fucks us over soon, the bubble feeling is really beginning to bother me.
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. said:Housing isn't booming. Foreclosures are at record levels and about 1/3 of mortgages are underwater. The market reflects the money the Fed has been printing.



what about the front page of cnn.com, right now.
threadkilla
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. said:Housing isn't booming. Foreclosures are at record levels and about 1/3 of mortgages are underwater. The market reflects the money the Fed has been printing.



what about the front page of cnn.com, right now.



look at the house behind the sold sign.

when pets.com stock was at $5 from $11 on it's wasy to .19 some one thought they were getting a smoking deal
threadkilla
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. said:can you explain the resurgence of the housing boom? .



i'm not so sure i'd call a record in sales cause the homes are 1/2 off a resurgence
Boomer.Boi
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Fuck it. Nothing ever comes of these "The sky is falling." predictions. Never.

I'm saying screw this and go back to the thinking I had as a youth. We had the Ruskies with their atom bombs and I never gave it a single thought. Every thing worked out well then and it will now and forever into the future.

I think there is a French saying for this kind of thought, but I wouldn't know as I took Spanish in school.
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Boomer.Boi said:Fuck it. Nothing ever comes of these "The sky is falling." predictions. Never.

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:lol:


tell that to the 5 people (so far) i know of that lost their houses...
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We're going to see inflation take off soon. This "recovery" is just the first taste.

I don't really think it's a bad thing, either. Sucks for people on fixed incomes, but it's the only way for America and Americans to squirm from under their massive debt load. 10 years of 5% inflation should burn off most of the consumer and government debt and get the housing market right side up again.
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. said:We're going to see inflation take off soon. This "recovery" is just the first taste.

I don't really think it's a bad thing, either. Sucks for people on fixed incomes, but it's the only way for America and Americans to squirm from under their massive debt load. 10 years of 5% inflation should burn off most of the consumer and government debt and get the housing market right side up again.



inflation or double digit interest rates, either way we're hosed.
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. said:inflation or double digit interest rates, either way we're hosed.



We survived both in the 1970s, and people reminisce fondly about that era. Think about that for a second.
threadkilla
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. said: 10 years of 5% inflation should burn off most of the consumer and government debt.





i'd really like to see some math on this?

how is everything costing more while americans will be making less (for some much much less) gonna burn off debt?

show pretty pictures and graphs cause i can't seem to understand the math....no shock there.
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. said:We survived both in the 1970s, and people reminisce fondly about that era. Think about that for a second.



We survived the great depression too.
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threadkilla said:i'd really like to see some math on this?

how is everything costing more while americans well be making less (for some much much less) gonna burn off debt?

show pretty picure and graphs cause i can't seem to understand the math....no shock there.




With inflation, everything costs more every year. So businesses charge more for their goods and services -- instead of $.99lb for apples they cost $1.29lb.

This means higher revenue and higher earnings for businesses. Workers demand higher wages because their employers are making more profit and cost of living goes up.

But the worker's and employer's mortgages and loans don't go up ... if you owe $150,000 to the bank that doesn't go up. But with inflation your take home pay may go from $50,000 to $70,000 after a few years. So everyone can pay back their old loans quicker and easier.

Like I said, it sucks for people on fixed incomes -- pensioners who have to make do with $1,800 a month suffer during times of inflation. But it's not really that bad a deal for a society up to its eyeballs in debt. It's the best way for America to deal with its massive debt load.

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Unemployment drived decline. This is a fool's rally.
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. said:With inflation, everything costs more every year. So businesses charge more for their goods and services -- instead of $.99lb for apples they cost $1.29lb.

This means higher revenue and higher earnings for businesses. Workers demand higher wages because their employers are making more profit and cost of living goes up.

But the worker's and employer's mortgages and loans don't go up ... if you owe $150,000 to the bank that doesn't go up. But with inflation your take home pay may go from $50,000 to $70,000 after a few years. So everyone can pay back their old loans quicker and easier.

Like I said, it sucks for people on fixed incomes -- pensioners who have to make do with $1,800 a month suffer during times of inflation. But it's not really that bad a deal for a society up to its eyeballs in debt. It's the best way for America to deal with its massive debt load.



No, the best way to get out of this mess would be to default. Sure, no one would loan us money again but so what. We'd be forced to balance our budgets and it woudl kill the fed.
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. said:No, the best way to get out of this mess would be to default. Sure, no one would loan us money again but so what. We'd be forced to balance our budgets and it woudl kill the fed.




Default on government bonds? You are aware that only 25% of government debt is foreign-owned right? That Americans own 75% of all government debt?

You think the government should screw Americans out of trillions of dollars? Are you a communist?
threadkilla
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Workers demand higher wages because their employers are making more profit and cost of living goes up.

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this is where your math falls apart.


business moves that job offshore and gets it done for half.

ONLY government workers get this cost of living bullshit (not for much longer) in the real world wages have been falling for close to 30 years.

debt creation hid this fact, that's over

now redo your math based on reality....falling or at best stagnant wages.

again use pretty pictures and graphs.... :banana:
threadkilla
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threadkilla said:this is where your math falls apart.


business moves that job offshore and gets it done for half.

ONLY government workers get this cost of living bullshit (not for much longer) in the real world wages have been falling for close to 30 years.

debt creation hid this fact, that's over

now redo your math based on reality....falling or at best stagnant wages.

again use pretty pictures and graphs.... :banana:




:crickets:
Electric_Lights
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The CNBC faggots might have been telling the truth today: everyone wants end of the year performance bonuses, so the pump is on.
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Here's the deal. The jews are rigging the system again to steal as much money as they can from the gullible goyim that watch the markets rise and think "it's time to jump back in!" and they invest as much as they can and the jews sell high and the goyim gets fucked once again.

Alt-A's and Option ARM's are starting to reset. The commercial paper market is about to implode on itself. Anyone who thinks this little burp in the market is a sign of the recession being over deserves to lose everything they own.

:lol:
ImperialExecutive
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. said:We're going to see inflation take off soon. This "recovery" is just the first taste.

I don't really think it's a bad thing, either. Sucks for people on fixed incomes, but it's the only way for America and Americans to squirm from under their massive debt load. 10 years of 5% inflation should burn off most of the consumer and government debt and get the housing market right side up again.

Really? And how the FUCK will our purchasing power increase to meet that inflation, asstard? Will incomes rise 5%/yr to match it? FUCK NO!

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